{"version":"https:\/\/jsonfeed.org\/version\/1.1","user_comment":"This feed allows you to read the posts from this site in any feed reader that supports the JSON Feed format. To add this feed to your reader, copy the following URL -- https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/feed\/json\/ -- and add it your reader.","home_page_url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/","feed_url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/feed\/json\/","language":"en-US","title":"Comments on: Q&A Session: The Affiliate Commission","description":"Spreadshop Blog","items":[{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321817","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321817","content_html":"I'd like to know that as well Confused Shop Owner! Lena (Spreadshirt) can you confirm this without trying to use words that mask the real issues we are asking about. And no, \"wait until April blog\" won't work, we demand real answers to this REAL problem for all shop owners.","content_text":"I'd like to know that as well Confused Shop Owner! Lena (Spreadshirt) can you confirm this without trying to use words that mask the real issues we are asking about. And no, \"wait until April blog\" won't work, we demand real answers to this REAL problem for all shop owners.","date_published":"2016-03-31T08:03:32-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Josh Plummer","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/577c0f18ecba15dee731fdebd713aa34?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Josh Plummer","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/577c0f18ecba15dee731fdebd713aa34?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}},{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321810","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321810","content_html":"Thanks Lena, I think we just want you to acknowledge that there will be a significant price increase and that the example above is not a good example since it doesn't reflect how much the prices are going to go up.\r\n\r\nCan't you at least confirm this? Is this question specific enough?\r\n\r\nAnd are all product prices going up across the board? All we're asking for is some transparency and not gloss over the real issue -- which is we have to charge a lot more to make the same commission.\r\n\r\nCan you confirm this?","content_text":"Thanks Lena, I think we just want you to acknowledge that there will be a significant price increase and that the example above is not a good example since it doesn't reflect how much the prices are going to go up.\r\n\r\nCan't you at least confirm this? Is this question specific enough?\r\n\r\nAnd are all product prices going up across the board? All we're asking for is some transparency and not gloss over the real issue -- which is we have to charge a lot more to make the same commission.\r\n\r\nCan you confirm this?","date_published":"2016-03-30T18:50:47-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Confused Shop Owner","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/bd823b1e7f5f985fa73a30bcff4522eb?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Confused Shop Owner","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/bd823b1e7f5f985fa73a30bcff4522eb?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}},{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321781","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321781","content_html":"Spreadshirt now blocking comments on this blog........... very telling!!","content_text":"Spreadshirt now blocking comments on this blog........... very telling!!","date_published":"2016-03-25T08:19:37-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Josh Plummer","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/577c0f18ecba15dee731fdebd713aa34?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Josh Plummer","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/577c0f18ecba15dee731fdebd713aa34?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}},{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321775","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321775","content_html":"Shocking that Spreadshirt now refuses to answer questions and is hoping this all blows over. Don't count on it Spreadshirt......... your shop owners are a lot smarter than you thought!","content_text":"Shocking that Spreadshirt now refuses to answer questions and is hoping this all blows over. Don't count on it Spreadshirt......... your shop owners are a lot smarter than you thought!","date_published":"2016-03-24T09:14:36-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Josh Plummer","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/577c0f18ecba15dee731fdebd713aa34?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Josh Plummer","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/577c0f18ecba15dee731fdebd713aa34?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}},{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321773","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321773","content_html":"Agree Joe. Thanks for clearing all this up for us.\r\n\r\nAnd the fact they aren't really directly answering your questions about the price hikes makes it clear they want to minimize this. It just makes them look worse by not addressing it. \r\n\r\nThe blog team were probably instructed not to. Well it looks bad because we are not dumb and can see what's really going on.\r\n\r\nThey are going to lose a lot of affiliates, but apparently their affiliates aren't a big part of their income...must be the marketplace... otherwise why do this if you know this will probably lower our sales?","content_text":"Agree Joe. Thanks for clearing all this up for us.\r\n\r\nAnd the fact they aren't really directly answering your questions about the price hikes makes it clear they want to minimize this. It just makes them look worse by not addressing it. \r\n\r\nThe blog team were probably instructed not to. Well it looks bad because we are not dumb and can see what's really going on.\r\n\r\nThey are going to lose a lot of affiliates, but apparently their affiliates aren't a big part of their income...must be the marketplace... otherwise why do this if you know this will probably lower our sales?","date_published":"2016-03-23T16:49:02-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Confused Shop Owner","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/bd823b1e7f5f985fa73a30bcff4522eb?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Confused Shop Owner","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/bd823b1e7f5f985fa73a30bcff4522eb?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}},{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321769","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321769","content_html":"Thanks @Former Shop Owner. It grows tiring. They have not yet shown that they understand what I'm saying, so I'm not yet convinced that they understand what their calculator is doing. The 10% to 20% price hikes (beyond the new 20% commission) could still be unintentional.","content_text":"Thanks @Former Shop Owner. It grows tiring. They have not yet shown that they understand what I'm saying, so I'm not yet convinced that they understand what their calculator is doing. The 10% to 20% price hikes (beyond the new 20% commission) could still be unintentional.","date_published":"2016-03-23T10:43:49-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Joe Lapp","url":"https:\/\/jopodia.com","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b76a642537783acc3d0b6dfb44536925?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Joe Lapp","url":"https:\/\/jopodia.com","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b76a642537783acc3d0b6dfb44536925?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}},{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321768","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321768","content_html":"Joe Lapp, thank you for pointing out these inconsistencies that spreadshirt has in their blog and calculator. Many shop owners will just say \"ok\" and go with the flow. It is necessary to understand what they are doing. Even more so is the fact they they tried to hide things from their shop owners, which again, is highly unethical, albeit legal. They are scrambling now to try and put out the fires they have created. Only seems to be adding more fuel. They really should have been completely honest in the beginning and forthcoming about everything.   This is a major blow to every shop owner on Spreadshirt, unlike what they have said. No surprise there.","content_text":"Joe Lapp, thank you for pointing out these inconsistencies that spreadshirt has in their blog and calculator. Many shop owners will just say \"ok\" and go with the flow. It is necessary to understand what they are doing. Even more so is the fact they they tried to hide things from their shop owners, which again, is highly unethical, albeit legal. They are scrambling now to try and put out the fires they have created. Only seems to be adding more fuel. They really should have been completely honest in the beginning and forthcoming about everything.   This is a major blow to every shop owner on Spreadshirt, unlike what they have said. No surprise there.","date_published":"2016-03-23T10:25:24-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Former Shop Owner","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/46bd21e9a3f57e9428cafb1bba67606b?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Former Shop Owner","url":"","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/46bd21e9a3f57e9428cafb1bba67606b?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}},{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321767","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321767","content_html":"Put another way, it is necessary for Spreadshirt to increase the (print + product type) price by the 20% commission if the 20% commission will be coming out of this price in the future. The new model requires this.\r\n\r\nHowever, that's not all Spreadshirt is doing. Spreadshirt is also increasing its share of the price by 10% to 20%, according to the calculator. This is not required by the new model. This is a hidden price hike.","content_text":"Put another way, it is necessary for Spreadshirt to increase the (print + product type) price by the 20% commission if the 20% commission will be coming out of this price in the future. The new model requires this.\r\n\r\nHowever, that's not all Spreadshirt is doing. Spreadshirt is also increasing its share of the price by 10% to 20%, according to the calculator. This is not required by the new model. This is a hidden price hike.","date_published":"2016-03-23T09:31:54-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Joe Lapp","url":"https:\/\/jopodia.com","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b76a642537783acc3d0b6dfb44536925?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Joe Lapp","url":"https:\/\/jopodia.com","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b76a642537783acc3d0b6dfb44536925?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}},{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321764","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321764","content_html":"I should clarify: the 50 to 90 cent difference is relative to the illustrated \"new\" model. Relative to the original model, the final price of the corrected model is $2.75 to $4.50 higher, while the final commission is $1.35 to $1.70 higher, with Spreadshirt's share increasing by $1.40 to $2.80 (10% to 20%).","content_text":"I should clarify: the 50 to 90 cent difference is relative to the illustrated \"new\" model. Relative to the original model, the final price of the corrected model is $2.75 to $4.50 higher, while the final commission is $1.35 to $1.70 higher, with Spreadshirt's share increasing by $1.40 to $2.80 (10% to 20%).","date_published":"2016-03-22T23:40:42-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Joe Lapp","url":"https:\/\/jopodia.com","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b76a642537783acc3d0b6dfb44536925?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Joe Lapp","url":"https:\/\/jopodia.com","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b76a642537783acc3d0b6dfb44536925?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}},{"id":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321763","url":"https:\/\/www.spreadshop.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/16\/qa-session-the-affiliate-commission\/#comment-321763","content_html":"Thomas, it's not clear to me that you understand the calculator examples we are presenting. It would help us if you addressed our examples of base price increases. If you revisit my initial three examples (other thread), pay attention to the 9.3% to 19.2% increases in Spreadshirt share that I report. There are additional examples in this thread.\r\n\r\n**** PROOF THAT THE ILLUSTRATION IS WRONG ****\r\n\r\n(((PART 1))) The illustration above shows that Spreadshirt is LOWERING the base price of the product by 5.7%. Here's why:\r\n\r\nOld Spreadshirt share = (print price) + (product type price) = $14.00.\r\n\r\nNew Spreadshirt share = 80% * (print price) + (new product type price) = 80% * $16.50 = $13.20, as shown. The remaining 20% commission = $3.30, as shown.\r\n\r\nThe example shows Spreadshirt losing 80 cents ($13.20 - $14.00) in new model relative to the old model. That is, the illustration shows that the new model has LOWERED the base price by 5.7% (0.80\/14.00).\r\n\r\nWe can confirm this more intuitively. The original product commission of $2.50 was only 2.50\/(4+2.50+10) = 15% of the \"net\" price. In order to increase the commission to 20% and yet leave the final price ($18.50) unchanged, Spreadshirt would have to eat the ~5% difference.\r\n\r\nOn the contrary, the calculator is showing that Spreadshirt is INCREASING the base price by varying amounts (9.3% to 19.2% in my examples).\r\n\r\n(((PART 2))) If we choose a base price increase at the low end of calculator results (most favorable to customers), say 10%, we get the most favorable correction for the above illustration.\r\n\r\nThe old spreadshirt share is $14.00. A base price increase of 10% makes this $15.40 under the new model. \r\n\r\nThe new net price gives 20% to the shop owner and 80% to Spreadshirt. 80% of $19.25 is $15.40, so $19.25 is the new \"net\" price of the product. \r\n\r\nThe new 20% commission is therefore 20% of $19.25 = $3.85.\r\n\r\nIf we add the design commission, the new price is $21.25 and the new total commission is $5.85. And this is the lowest price scenario!\r\n\r\nFor kicks, a calculation at a 20% base price increase yields a new \"net\" price of $21.00 with a 20% commission of $4.20. Add in the $2 design commission and the new numbers are $23.00 product price and $6.20 commission.\r\n\r\nThe final price in the corrected model is $2.75 to $4.50 higher, and the final commission is 50 to 90 cents higher.","content_text":"Thomas, it's not clear to me that you understand the calculator examples we are presenting. It would help us if you addressed our examples of base price increases. If you revisit my initial three examples (other thread), pay attention to the 9.3% to 19.2% increases in Spreadshirt share that I report. There are additional examples in this thread.\r\n\r\n**** PROOF THAT THE ILLUSTRATION IS WRONG ****\r\n\r\n(((PART 1))) The illustration above shows that Spreadshirt is LOWERING the base price of the product by 5.7%. Here's why:\r\n\r\nOld Spreadshirt share = (print price) + (product type price) = $14.00.\r\n\r\nNew Spreadshirt share = 80% * (print price) + (new product type price) = 80% * $16.50 = $13.20, as shown. The remaining 20% commission = $3.30, as shown.\r\n\r\nThe example shows Spreadshirt losing 80 cents ($13.20 - $14.00) in new model relative to the old model. That is, the illustration shows that the new model has LOWERED the base price by 5.7% (0.80\/14.00).\r\n\r\nWe can confirm this more intuitively. The original product commission of $2.50 was only 2.50\/(4+2.50+10) = 15% of the \"net\" price. In order to increase the commission to 20% and yet leave the final price ($18.50) unchanged, Spreadshirt would have to eat the ~5% difference.\r\n\r\nOn the contrary, the calculator is showing that Spreadshirt is INCREASING the base price by varying amounts (9.3% to 19.2% in my examples).\r\n\r\n(((PART 2))) If we choose a base price increase at the low end of calculator results (most favorable to customers), say 10%, we get the most favorable correction for the above illustration.\r\n\r\nThe old spreadshirt share is $14.00. A base price increase of 10% makes this $15.40 under the new model. \r\n\r\nThe new net price gives 20% to the shop owner and 80% to Spreadshirt. 80% of $19.25 is $15.40, so $19.25 is the new \"net\" price of the product. \r\n\r\nThe new 20% commission is therefore 20% of $19.25 = $3.85.\r\n\r\nIf we add the design commission, the new price is $21.25 and the new total commission is $5.85. And this is the lowest price scenario!\r\n\r\nFor kicks, a calculation at a 20% base price increase yields a new \"net\" price of $21.00 with a 20% commission of $4.20. Add in the $2 design commission and the new numbers are $23.00 product price and $6.20 commission.\r\n\r\nThe final price in the corrected model is $2.75 to $4.50 higher, and the final commission is 50 to 90 cents higher.","date_published":"2016-03-22T23:09:45-04:00","authors":[{"name":"Joe Lapp","url":"https:\/\/jopodia.com","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b76a642537783acc3d0b6dfb44536925?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}],"author":{"name":"Joe Lapp","url":"https:\/\/jopodia.com","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b76a642537783acc3d0b6dfb44536925?s=512&d=mm&r=g"}}]}